direct power hybrids

[macka]

So after researching a lot more,I have decided to try a biodiesel powered gen set to power a "hybrid" vehicle. In one of the issues of nuts and volts there is a 3 wheel robot powered by a weedwhacker hooked into an alternator doing a direct power feed into electric motors through a controller. This is what I am thinking, a small diesel motor and alternators/hub motors powering an electric motor driving a sand rail. The major issues are
a. transmission do I use a snowmachine CVT type set up, or do a mix and match a small FWD car tranny?
b weight, I have a feeling this will be a heavy son of a gun

any ideas folks?

[Dave X10]

So after researching a lot more,I have decided to try a biodiesel powered gen set to power a "hybrid" vehicle..........



Being from farm country.... the idea of turning food into fuel... really upsets me.

However on the BRIGHT side... road kill is far removed from conventional human food sources... and can be recycled into fuel.

I have read of a Germain man that reports mileage of 25 kilometer per cat.

[theDude]

Biodiesel doesn't have to be made from food sources. In fact there are much better plants that canne used. The only reason corn is used in the US is it is the only source subsidized by the government. It can be made from just about any plant material.

[macka]

I am looking at using waste veggie oil, and the I know for a fact (my friend is the CFO of a company called a-maize-ing energy) they use feed corn that can't be fed to animals due to mould or age. They pay around 10 bucks a trailer load and a lot more to ship to the site. It would otherwise go to waste. They have a patented process that makes waste corn usable. They are also looking at sugar beets and another product that is a mix of stuff, thats still in development. So no sweet corn or table corn is actually used in 95% of the ethynol made for fuels. That kind of corn is too moist for good processing. If anyone comes to Guelph, I'll see what I can do to get a plant tour for you. Its really quite interesting.

[AtomicZombie]

What would really be radical is a gastro-engine that would convert energy into motion much like our digestive system. Imagine dropping a bag of lawn cuttings into the hopper and then heading out for a 6 hour ride. Getting rid of the exhaust (waste) would be a bit nasty, but it would make great fertilizer.

Brad

[John Lewis]

What would really be radical is a gastro-engine that would convert energy into motion much like our digestive system. Imagine dropping a bag of lawn cuttings into the hopper and then heading out for a 6 hour ride. Getting rid of the exhaust (waste) would be a bit nasty, but it would make great fertilizer.

Brad

How about a Methane digester? Run a gas engine on the methane. We made a small digester once as an experiment. It worked and we were able to burn the gas. Nearest I can think to a gastro generator.

I'd like someting like that and a Stirling cycle engine.
John Lewis

[greenevegiebeast]

What would really be radical is a gastro-engine that would convert energy into motion much like our digestive system. Imagine dropping a bag of lawn cuttings into the hopper and then heading out for a 6 hour ride. Getting rid of the exhaust (waste) would be a bit nasty, but it would make great fertilizer.

Brad
Brad do you like the Bck to the future movies???
That idea sounds alot like the davice the Doctor installed on the Delorian In the end of the movie.:D

[Dave X10]

Yeah.... it's a darn shame so few know much about the agricultural sciences. "Waste oil" and other "non-food" crops.... are also part of our food crops. As BOTH are used as feed for our meat and egg crops.

It really doesn't matter what name you give it.... roses smell just as sweet when just called just... a flower. Bio-fuels.... SHOULD have been used to help produce a DINNER.

[macka]

Yeah.... it's a darn shame so few know much about the agricultural sciences. "Waste oil" and other "non-food" crops.... are also part of our food crops. As BOTH are used as feed for our meat and egg crops.

It really doesn't matter what name you give it.... roses smell just as sweet when just called just... a flower. Bio-fuels.... SHOULD have been used to help produce a DINNER.

I agree with that Dave, but I still can't get over how much good stuff for making bio fuels is "landfill fodder". People are starting to look at some of the waste products now, but over the years, we've just dumped it. At least we are more then the 15% efficient processes used before to make synthetic fuels.

[Dave X10]

....I still can't get over how much good stuff for making bio fuels is "landfill fodder".


Your so right!

My nephew makes his own Bio-diesel from old restaurant fry oil. Around here... that oil would normally be recycled into chicken feed.


But oil from MY kitchen.... thats a different story. I don't think my nephew or MYSELF are bad people. I didn't mean to sound critical.


I think electric might be right fuel for short road trips.... and I LIKE the idea of extra power for “charging-while-driving” for longer trips. Since I no longer work (retired) I am seriously thinking electric powered (or assist) of a bike/cycle/ or small car.


Really thinking about Brad's tadpole trike!

[macka]

Dave like the Nike slogan says...Just Do It :D. The tadpole is the perfect platform for an e-assisted vehicle. A few little mods like a battery and controller box, add a small e drive unit, or modify something like the bully to fit, and you'd be styling.:cool:

Oh and I wasn't being critical of you, but of people in general where waste biomass is concerned. There is a lot of misinformation out there and its fed by the oil consortiums, who through thick and thin have posted record profits by fleecing us at the pumps. If the government was really serious about becoming independant of OPEC we'd be looking seriously at alternative means to produce electricity to power plants and power houses and conserve what we have. There are so many facets to owning a e vehicle, not just for the environment, but because its actually cheaper to run and maintain an e vehicle, then it is to run and maintain a gas powered vehicle.

[greenevegiebeast]

Macke the fleecing at the pumps is also the gov, what alot of people dont relize is that almost half the cost of the gass that you buy is TAX, Federal, state, and local. percentage wis the oil companeys make less profit on the gas you buy than the gov gets in tax. so rember what kind of person you are electig, see if we can get them to lessen our tax burden.