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Chris
02-06-2008, 01:13 PM
I've found that Harbor Freight has a firewood carrier that has 20 inch steel wheels with bearings that will take a 1/2 inch axle. Cost last time I looked was about $50 for the whole thing, so you get some extra tubing as well.

n9viw
02-06-2008, 02:00 PM
W00t! $50 trailer! I'm gonna get one. :D

<EDIT> The only one I was able to find was this one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=96833 . Is this the same one? 10" wheels, look like plastic. That won't work... </EDIT>

Chris
02-06-2008, 02:58 PM
Rats, I don't see it there. Well it looks like they don't carry it any longer (sorry, I should've checked before posting), but maybe your local HF still has it in stock. They definitely used to, as I bought one!
I did a google search for "wood hauler" and turned up several, but they're over $100.

Chris
02-11-2008, 09:10 PM
I was in Harbor Freight today and saw the firewood carrier on display so took a few pics with my cell phone... in case they didn't up load, the SKU is 44599, it's called a Firewood Cart, 200 pound capacity, and the price was $49.99. I just might go pick up a spare!

TheKid
02-11-2008, 10:28 PM
Those look pretty good. All the cart wheels I've seen were either plastic and could only be used with 40 PSI tires, or radially spoked, which are weak. These wheels have a cross pattern in the spokes.

n9viw
02-11-2008, 11:14 PM
There we go. I'll have to call my local HFT and see if they have one. I already have the conduit, I could add some to that and leave the carrier (mostly) the way it is, and build a trailer that way.

Wrylock
03-12-2013, 01:17 AM
The Harbor Freight Welding Cart has 20" wheels! & it is on sale for $49.99!
<http://www.harborfreight.com/welding-cart-65939.html

SirJoey
03-12-2013, 06:20 AM
Wrylock, U do realize this thread is 5 years old, right? :rolleyes4: :laugh3:



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The Cat
03-12-2013, 07:18 AM
To Sir Joey Harbor Freight tools still carry a firewood cart I just looked.http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_17115.jpg
$54.99

Not a store to be had in the UK.

Thomas (The Cat)

Ticktock
03-12-2013, 08:48 AM
Wrylock,
Don't worry, we have all done it at some time, and been told, and we will do it again, and get told again!
And you win, because they still sell the fire wood cart!
But I bet you you look at the date next time---I do ! Don't ask why!
Steve G,
Beijing

SirJoey
03-12-2013, 12:31 PM
TheCat, I didn't doubt that Wrylock's info was current & valid.
I was simply wondering if he had noticed the date on the thread. :)



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dmac257
03-12-2013, 01:17 PM
So .. aside from the fact that this thread was started a "few" years ago .. are the wheels any good .. has anyone used the wheels from either the firewood cart http://www.harborfreight.com/firewood-cart-44599.html or the welding cart http://www.harborfreight.com/welding-cart-65939.html for wheels on a trike or a trailer???

dmac257

bambuko
03-12-2013, 01:35 PM
...Not a store to be had in the UK...
perhaps just as well !!! :1eye:
anyway... why buy cart to get wheels?
and they look cheap and nasty - considering money, time and effort you will be putting in your StreetFox you are probably better off with decent secondhand stuff rather than that lot...

Ticktock
03-12-2013, 01:43 PM
One thing I have learnt from living in China for nearly five years is that two sayings are perfectly true, in China or the rest of the world.
One---buyer beware! Two, you get what you pay for (in China, if you are careful)
The photo tells all--they are steel rims, with 28 spokes.
All AZ plans recomend 48 spokes. I use 36 here because I have not found 48 yet, and they do OK. But I reuse 32 spoke rims every time I go shopping for rims.
So it realy does not matter what the hubs will take in respecyt of bearings, theyn fail for spoke count. And believe me, you cannot turn a 28 spoke hub into a 48 spoke hub because there are always twom holes that want to be in nearly trhe same place at nearly the same time!
If the tires, tubes, and other steel in the cart are a good buy, go for it, but not for the rims , spokes or hubs.
Only my opinion, from a photo.
Steve G,
Beijing
Sir Joey--As to old dates(posts of course) -Been there --done that!

SirJoey
03-12-2013, 04:12 PM
Yep, those are heavy, cheaply made wheels,
not intended for high speed, or lateral stress.
Fine for their intended use.



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trikedoc
03-12-2013, 06:09 PM
Yep, those are heavy, cheaply made wheels,
not intended for high speed, or lateral stress.
Fine for their intended use.



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Ashamed to admit it but a couple of years ago when I started acquiring parts to build a tadpole. I bought a pair of 20" cart wheels from Northern Tool had 1 3/8" OD 3/4"ID sloppy bearings. The bearings were the best part Heavy untrue-able steel wheels crappy tires. My only defense they looked good on the computer screen. Nice thing about Harbor Fright is you can go to there store and lay your hands on there junk before you buy.
Al

Wrylock
03-13-2013, 07:38 AM
So there is a time/date limit on posting something that YES I DID READ the date LOL:). At least now there are follow up comments on those wheels that 5 years later is still available for under $50 & why they are only good for a cart or wagon... Zombie Fun Police! Who Knew! lol

guthrie
05-16-2013, 12:45 PM
Definitely do not use a cart type wheel on a bike project that will see any abuse. We put them on our Moon Buggy (4 wheel tandem bike for a NASA contest) and they look good and took some abuse until we decided to try and powerslide in grass. The wheel folded like a piece of paper and we were out $35 + tax. The problem is the way the spokes are laced. They are pressed in and not laced at all when you really look at them. If I was just riding straight and on the road on sunny days, not downhills, with lightweight children I might use them again, otherwise buy some decent wheels.

shaggy
09-22-2013, 04:56 PM
ebay my friends. ill be getting 2 double wall 20" 48H 14mm axil wheels delivered for $135ish.

IrvJamison
09-22-2013, 09:53 PM
TerraTrike has a deal on 20"/20mm front disc ready wheels for $59.95 each that are made for a trike.

Tradetek
09-23-2013, 02:04 AM
Irv that price sounds incredible. Can you post a link for it because I can't find it on their site and I might just have to pull the trigger them at that price.

Thanks,

Bill

IrvJamison
09-23-2013, 12:39 PM
They are not listed since they revamped the website. I just called them and their standard single wall 20"/20mm wheel is $60 each and their double wall is $125 each. The standard single wall wheels are all the you need. Being 20" they are strong enough unless you are the crazy type.

TheKid
09-24-2013, 05:37 PM
FWIW, I used single wall rims with my 12mm axle hubs, no problems whatsoever. I had drum hubs first, then switched to DB hubs. I weigh 250 lbs. Considering the axle gets a lot of stress, there should be no problem with 20mm axles and single walled rims, unless as Irv says, "you are the crazy type", or, do a lot of hard cornering racing.

Tradetek
09-25-2013, 10:28 AM
Thanks Irv, that is truly a sweet deal!

Bill

Racer46
09-25-2013, 02:45 PM
The front wheels on my TerraTrike Zoomer only had 32 spokes. TerraTrike obviously thinks this is adequate and I had no problems with mine in 3000 miles but I think this is the bare minimum strength for a trike.

shaggy
09-25-2013, 06:44 PM
my problem is that im 350 lbs. i had to go with a off road rim, and hub on my hibred bike because the standard single wall rim spokes were unthreading the nipples on every ride. with the new rim, and hub ($259 later) zero problems. thats why im getting the double wall rims. ill be using a heaver wall tube as well for the frame. i tend to over engineer stuff i build. learned that from my dad as a kid. still using some of the shelving unites he built . im 52 now.