Hub adapters for DW, Kyoto, StreetFighter, etc

[AtomicZombie]

I am having a few made at the local shop here, so I asked them to quote me on making 50 of them. If there is enough demand, I will have them done, although shipping may be a little silly from here.

These will be the 3/4 axle style with the disc brake flange included. The flange will not be drilled.

Brad

[TheKid]

Why not make them yourself? All you need is the flat bar and a left side BB cup. Cut the disc, grind it round, drill and file the center hole to 3/4", drill and tap the disc holes, (Or use nuts and bolts) file out the BB cup center hole from 11/16" to 3/4", then weld it to the disc. You could use the BB locknut as a spacer. If you don't mind filing hardened steel, you could use the freewheel side of a hub instead of the BB cup

[AtomicZombie]

Have you tried it yet? I had no problem welding a hardened crank arm, but I know the BB cup is super hard steel - the kind that will chip if you hit it with a hammer.

I wonder if it would hold up to the forces of pedalling and braking, which would be extreme, especially between the BB cup and axle where it is welded?

I might just have to test this out one day.

Brad


Why not make them yourself? All you need is the flat bar and a left side BB cup. Cut the disc, grind it round, drill and file the center hole to 3/4", drill and tap the disc holes, (Or use nuts and bolts) file out the BB cup center hole from 11/16" to 3/4", then weld it to the disc. You could use the BB locknut as a spacer. If you don't mind filing hardened steel, you could use the freewheel side of a hub instead of the BB cup

[TheKid]

Now I'm going to have to try it. I was planning on doing it on the hauler when I make the 20" wheels, but that will now be a priority.

[gbbwolf]

So brad are you having the schimano type hub adapters made the one where you can bolt the brake directly behind the hub as in the Kyoto plans.
And if i buy like 10 of them will ya drill and tap the holes for the brakes. LMAO

I was going to have the machine shop give me a price on 50 but they will also be tapping the holes for the brakes on mine.
I have a cheap drill that i dont feel like burning up. Also going to get a price on the hub adapters while im there.

[gbbwolf]

$72.50 A piece at local machine shop $4.20 for metal $68.30 for labor.
Wont be having these made. Well back to 5/8" axle on my deltawolf.
Hope it holds up to my 350 pounds lol
We shall have to see I guess.

[Pagan Wizard]

I am assuming that I would need only one of these for a DW build. To my surprise, you are doing this with 3/4 inch axels in mind, which is the route I was going to go. Do you have any pics that you could post to show us what they will look like?? How much would one cost me?? Shipping would be to postal code 60018 in the USA.

[netware]

I am having a few made at the local shop here, so I asked them to quote me on making 50 of them. If there is enough demand, I will have them done, although shipping may be a little silly from here.

These will be the 3/4 axle style with the disc brake flange included. The flange will not be drilled.

Brad
Any update on this? I would buy a couple that were machined, I tried to make a pair and they look cobled....

[AtomicZombie]

I will probably look more into this next year as I am building more and more trikes.

Brad

[macka]

can you shoot me some schematics for those? I have access to a lathe

[netware]

I am having a few made at the local shop here, so I asked them to quote me on making 50 of them. If there is enough demand, I will have them done, although shipping may be a little silly from here.

These will be the 3/4 axle style with the disc brake flange included. The flange will not be drilled.

Brad

I'll take three, if the price is close to good.
Thanks.

[tdy2008]

I have a lathe......... I have a milling machine.....I have time.........


I could prolly whack a few of those thingys out. Since I haven't gotten around to trying the trikes or quads yet I don't have the schematic for the adapter.
If somebody will send me a machinist drawing, not a scanned bar napkin cartoon. :1eye: think I can beat $73 each by a BUNCH. As long as they don't have to be made from unobtanium 236 or the like. I can help.

let moi know

[gbbwolf]

Well this is one reason i have not built more deltawolves or the kyoto-cruiser yet, I hate doing this part.

One of these days I will find a machinist who can make these cheap.

Nelson

[gbbwolf]

Well at the moment I have given up on delta-wolf design.

May revisit it at a later date.

The Tadpole desing is much easier to build.

I may do a kyoto-cruiser at a later date, but as for now I got tadpoles to build.

Thanks though.

Nelson

[Danner]

Now I'm going to have to try it. I was planning on doing it on the hauler when I make the 20" wheels, but that will now be a priority.

TK,
Do you know if those 15mm free wheel adaptors you mentioned on the old forum have enough meat on the ID to open them up to 3/4" for KC axles? I assume not since 3/4 hub adaptors are the holy grail and someone would have thought of it already!
http://www.bikepartsusa.com/bikeparts/item/01-6778742/search/Miami-Sun--Free-Wheel-Adapter-1535mm-With-2-Screws&category=search

Danner

[Odd Man Out]

Danner

I use Misumiusa.com to buy certain items I need when I build. The neat thing is that if you see something that is sorta close to what you need, you can actually have them manufacture EXACTly what you need to your provided specs -- very cool -- you can order only one at a time also. I love that company.
Here is a link to the site and a piece that might interest you... if not just spend time looking around, you will find what you need. Hope this helps.

P.S. with this site, building the DW becomes effortless (almost)

https://fa.misumiusa.com/gwos/catalog/catalog_view_pc080.aspx?CATALOG_ID=0001&CATEGORY_ID=071&PRODUCT_ID=15067

[TheKid]

Yes, there's plenty of meat to drill them out. Use a step drill or progressively larger bits in small increments. I just got two more that were a little harder than the one I received a few weeks ago. If you plan on using the keyway, that will have to be made deeper also. Joey drilled one of the old ones that had a 5/8" bore for his "Deltoid" using a step drill from HF. It's the same adapter, just a different bore and key size. They're a bit cheaper here:

http://www.amazon.com/Trike-Fw-Adapter-35mm-Screws/dp/B000AO7H84/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1244333916&sr=8-1

[savarin]

If you need to deepen the keyway clamp 2or more hacksaw blades into the frame till you have enough to give the width of the keyway.
Start sawing. done in a jiffy.

[TheKid]

If you need to deepen the keyway clamp 2or more hacksaw blades into the frame till you have enough to give the width of the keyway.
Start sawing. done in a jiffy.


Thanks for the tip.

[Danner]

Thanks to all for the tips!

I've spent a few hours (quite a few actually) just reading through the entire DeltaWolf discussion on the old forum. An amazing amount of great information! And more than that, I really enjoyed seeing how the whole thing grew and evolved over 2006-7. Gives me a better appreciation for what the AZ forum is today.

I loved the story by trikeman about his first test run around the cul-de-sac, where the tacked-on handle bar snapped off, flintstoning into the neighbor's yard, and walking home with DW towed under arm. :)

For the record, I've spent a couple months now getting up to speed with this new hobby. I've downloaded 4 plans, all trikes and quads. My welder just arrived this week, so after a bit of practice on scrap, I'll start with a welding station, modeled a bit after Richie's. Then on to starting a frame in coming weeks.

Danner

[tdy2008]

The really cool thing about Misumi is the 3d data you can download and import to lazycam. Set the fixture, mount the material, hit the run button. Go make a sandwich and check email. Rinse dish in sink, go do a tool change and turn part over in fixture. More coffee, phone girlfriend. Part is done.....

Technology rools!:sunny::punk:




Danner

I use Misumiusa.com to buy certain items I need when I build. The neat thing is that if you see something that is sorta close to what you need, you can actually have them manufacture EXACTly what you need to your provided specs -- very cool -- you can order only one at a time also. I love that company.
Here is a link to the site and a piece that might interest you... if not just spend time looking around, you will find what you need. Hope this helps.

P.S. with this site, building the DW becomes effortless (almost)

https://fa.misumiusa.com/gwos/catalog/catalog_view_pc080.aspx?CATALOG_ID=0001&CATEGORY_ID=071&PRODUCT_ID=15067

[Odd Man Out]

The really cool thing about Misumi is the 3d data you can download and import to lazycam.
Technology rools!:sunny::punk:

Lazycam looks to be pretty interesting software. If I ever spend the big bucks for a milling machine I will definately look into it. Glad to see others know about Misumi. It is a great resource.

I agree with a caveat: technology does "rule" as long as it works!