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consultantTW
07-16-2009, 12:51 PM
I am interested in the LodeRunner, but I live in Florida with some very soft sand that the locals call "Sugar Sand". When this sand is dry it is very difficult to get a narrow tire thruogh it.
What I am wondering is, could the cargo end of the trike be a little longer to accomidate a another axil? The reason being that way a sort of halftrack could be made out of old car tires, and fitted to the rear wheels then. Maybe have dual wheeles on dual axils, so that the new "trike" could have a dual track on each side.
Also this configuration would be a good set up for snow country. By adding a ski in front instead of a wheel. Maybe even be looked at by arctic explorers. Even considered by back country residences. I could think of a number of people who might consider a set up like that. Possibably also even some kind of a personal watercraft.
Oh the possibilities ... :thinking: ...
Thanks for listening to my ramblings, and for any comments or imput.

consultantTW
www.consultantTWard@gmail.com

GregLWB
07-16-2009, 01:20 PM
Some folks have already made the beds longer and shorter on thier LR's. You would need to move the axle back or forward to accomodate. IMO running a double axle on the rear would cause you problems without suspension (high center, loss of traction if drive wheel was in a dip while the other tire wasn't, etc.) although I think it would look cool.


As an alternative solution you may want to glean some ideas for your LR from this post about an Extreme Sand Trike.:sunny:

http://forum.atomiczombie.com/showthread.php?t=2457&highlight=*******

Greg

JayRay
07-16-2009, 07:18 PM
ConsultantTW
I made the bed on my LodeRunner longer. Instead of the 2' by 2' the plans
call for I made mine 3' long by 2' wide. I took 10" off the main beam to make
up the difference. I am only 5' 6" tall so I still have plenty of room for my legs
on the front beam. I also am using 24" wheels instead of 20" so it may make
the bed look shorter in the pictures.

(Click on the pictures below to see full size)

Rear box with wheels
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/JustJay2009/Main%20Beam/th_MainBeam-16.jpg (http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/JustJay2009/Main%20Beam/?action=view&current=MainBeam-16.jpg)

Close up of rear box
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/JustJay2009/Main%20Beam/th_MainBeam-24.jpg (http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/JustJay2009/Main%20Beam/?action=view&current=MainBeam-24.jpg)

Full frame with wheels and
pilot steering "mocked up"
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/JustJay2009/Steering/th_PilotSteer-10.jpg (http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/JustJay2009/Steering/?action=view&current=PilotSteer-10.jpg)

I guess you could put two 20" wheels on each side, the front one would
end up about 4" forward of the front of the rear box. Maybe you could
power both wheels on the right side? I do not know how it would work
as far as ride, steering, traction, etc... but I am looking forward to
seeing what you come up with. :builder2:
Post pictures please! :)
Jay

SirJoey
07-16-2009, 07:28 PM
Jay, that bad boy's almost RIDEABLE, dude!
C'mon, get crackin' on that thing! :D


http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7131/sirjoeysigmedij1.gif

Radical Brad
07-16-2009, 11:37 PM
It won't be long now before you are watching paint dry... great work!

Brad

JayRay
07-22-2009, 02:09 AM
ConsultantTW
I am sorry but I think I inadvertently hijacked your thread. :(

How are your plans coming along?
I am really interested in seeing what
you come up with for your LodeRunner.
Please post any and all progress and,
as always, all here love to see pictures
drawings, etc...

Radical Brad and SirJoey,
Thanks for your encouragement! :)
Please come on over to my LodeRunner thread for
any or lack of any progress reports on my build.
http://forum.atomiczombie.com/showthread.php?p=27751#post27751
Jay

Richie Rich
07-22-2009, 09:13 PM
I am interested in the LodeRunner, but I live in Florida with some very soft sand that the locals call "Sugar Sand". When this sand is dry it is very difficult to get a narrow tire thruogh it. Thanks for listening to my ramblings, and for any comments or imput.

consultantTWAs long as you're using thin tires, it won't matter how many you use....it'll still be difficult to manage. The solution for soft sand as Greg's link suggests is FAT tires. I've seen a trike with four 3-inch wide rear tires....2 on each side mounted very close together to form an extra wide surface.

Of course, there's always Brad's Gladiator car tires which would never sink...!!

.......Richie.....
.

John Lewis
07-23-2009, 07:49 AM
As long as you're using thin tires, it won't matter how many you use....it'll still be difficult to manage. The solution for soft sand as Greg's link suggests is FAT tires. I've seen a trike with four 3-inch wide rear tires....2 on each side mounted very close together to form an extra wide surface.

Of course, there's always Brad's Gladiator car tires which would never sink...!!

.......Richie.....
.

The guy over here in Aus is just finishing desert 10 of his 10 deserts ride. Lots of soft sand there for thousands of miles. He has 4" wide tyres on his bike and the Extrawheel water trailer. Without those wide tyres he wouldn't have stood a chance.

John Lewis

consultantTW
07-31-2009, 07:17 PM
Ok thanks for all of the imput everyone, now I am wondering just how heavy both the LR-I is and the LR-II is. What I might do is a combination of the two of them with my own modifactions thrown in. Am still in the "wish-n-want" stage mainly, but am also "taking notes and planning as well". Plus I need to learn how to weld I see, or maybe find a welder that has kids. Also am thinking that it might be interesting if the LR's were in a quadracycle design ... and the doodles march on.
consultantTW