Disc Brakes and Hub Adapters [Archive] - Atomic Zombie™ Extreme Machines Builder's Forum

PeterT

09-08-2009, 04:14 AM

Anyone wanting to have laser cut hub flanges, 24 hole, with a 4 & 6 hole rotor pattern laser cut into them, as well as an adaptor that has the 4 & 6 rotor pattern, and a backing plate with the same pattern, please let me know via email.

I am awaiting a quote from my local laser cutter for the parts, and all I need to know is how many to get, postage is on me and so are the kits if enough people are interested!

one kit wil have one hub flange 48 hole , two adaptors, and two backing plates

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2591/3899057005_b2923a1f79.jpg

tremlett@emailaccount.com

PeterT

Odd Man Out

09-08-2009, 09:27 AM

PeterT

Either you are a saint or independantly wealthy == either way you may be looking to eat a huge amount of money if enough people take you up on your offer...

We need more people like you in this world -- I mean that sincerely.

PeterT

09-08-2009, 12:20 PM

OMO,

I am neither a saint nor independantly wealthy!

I am just a Son of the most High God, and as such, His wealth is mine!

If the Lord freely gives me something, I can only freely give it out!

PeterT

Odd Man Out

09-08-2009, 12:30 PM

jimFPU

09-08-2009, 12:34 PM

I'd be willing to share my part of the costs.

Can I assume these are for trike front hubs?

PeterT

09-08-2009, 12:43 PM

jimFPU

09-08-2009, 12:45 PM

Sounds great! Let me know!

savarin

09-09-2009, 01:14 AM

These adaptors will allow a disc brake to be fitted to any wheel; 10"-27", front or rear, left side or right side, trike, bike, or quad, crossed spoke or radial.
The only thing you will need to add is a rubber patch to place between the spokes and the backing plate, to tighten the adaptors up onto.

PeterT

Hi Peter, I'm having a brain fart moment. I'm finding it difficult to envision how they actually tighten to any hub.
Any other pictures drawings etc?
Thanks

PeterT

09-09-2009, 02:48 AM

Savarin,
The pics are in post #2 of this thread.

The adaptors go on the outside of the spokes, and the half plates go behind the spokes to allow the screws to bolt into.

All the holes for the rotors will be tapped for 5mm bolts, so all you have to do is cut an old tyre to the shape of the adaptor, drill through the threaded holes with a smaller drill size to establish your centres in the rubber mat, drill bigger holes through the rubber, place adaptor up against outside of spokes, slide back plate in behind spokes and thread 5mm bolt through adaptor, rubber mat, and into backing plate, and tighten bolts...

Hey Presto any wheel can now have disc brakes fitted
PeterT

SirJoey

09-09-2009, 07:32 AM

...so all you have to do is cut an old tyre to the shape of the adaptor...What, you're not even gonna cut the rubber for us? :jester:

Do we have to do EVERYTHING? :laugh3:

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7131/sirjoeysigmedij1.gif

PeterT

09-09-2009, 08:13 AM

SJ,

Look at how many used tyres are just sitting around in USA, waiting to become a donor patch of rubber for your many projects.

Got the quote back, getting a sample made to tap holes and check alignment, and then they will be batch cut, and sent!

PeterT

savarin

09-09-2009, 08:55 AM

I'm still interested Peter.

jimFPU

09-09-2009, 09:38 AM

I'm in too. Let us know how much they cost and we can help reimburse a little anyway...

John Lewis

09-09-2009, 09:57 AM

G'day Peter, I'm interested too. As I understand it they will fit like the motor sprocket was fitted on one of those Curry electric mods.

John Lewis

PeterT

09-09-2009, 11:07 AM

Thanx for the interest!

Those who are wanting me to send them a kit, will need to email me their postal address, and approximately how many they are wanting.

It may be possible for the laser cutters to do other than 48 spoke hubs, but will need to know how many are required

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2619/3903233843_4c8f9a329b.jpg

PeterT

tremlett@emailaccount.com

dakidd1

09-09-2009, 04:21 PM

Me too, Peter. I have emailed you, and let me know how much I owe you for this. Will paypal it to you. And thank you in advance for such a generious offer !!!

Ron
:kid:

PeterT

09-10-2009, 03:33 AM

Hi Guys/gals,

Should make it a bit clearer for everyone.

The adaptor kit will fit (SHOULD FIT) every size wheel that has been made, and the kits will include enough parts to fit disc brakes to the existing wheel.

The hub flanges are for those wanting to build or rebuild their wheels with disc brakes, and I will include a pair of flanges for those that want them

My apologies for any confusion

PeterT

ps DONT COPY my drawings! they have a serious error in them, which I will correct when i get my pc working again, and then forward the correct drawings to the laser cutter :1eye:

lioni05

09-11-2009, 02:14 AM

Wow Peter! Those look great. I am definitely interested, as I have a loderunner that i am working on currently. Thanks!

PeterT

09-16-2009, 10:21 AM

Lioni05,

Please make sure that you email your details, and amounts wanted so that I can add you to the order.

updated the drawings, just need to get them off the other pc, so that I can print them, andtake them back to the laser cutter for another quote.

PeterT
tremlett@emailaccount.com

PeterT

09-19-2009, 09:27 AM

Just to give you an update...

these are the NEW drawings for the hub/disc brake adaptors
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/3933320767_42b967b743.jpg

and for those who have ordered some, this is what I will be sending ...

a) adaptor kit: this will include enough parts of the adaptor ring to bring the disc out to the standard setting for disc brakes, and one pair of backing plates for each kit.

b) hub flanges: a matched pair consiting of one rotor holes hub, and one plain hub with specified spoke hole number; e.g. a 48 hole rim would receive 1x24 hole rotor hub flange, and one plain 24 hole hub flange.

The rotor holes contain the spacings for 4 & 6 hole bike rotors, as well as the spacings for the pocket rocket rotors and adaptor ring. Will post a pic when I have all three available.

anyone else interested,
email me your details and I will add you to the order list

PeterT
tremlett@emailaccount.com

SirJoey

09-19-2009, 05:32 PM

Methinks PeterT is a "generous genius"... :D

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7131/sirjoeysigmedij1.gif

jimFPU

09-19-2009, 10:10 PM

Peter, you are truly generous, but seriously let us know how much we can off set the charges! Else may God bless you even more!

PeterT

09-19-2009, 11:12 PM

The Lord has blessed me with the drafting skills, He gave me the idea, He gets the glory and credit for all I do, so how can I take a God-given idea and sell it, when He has said,"freely you have received, freely give!"

If He tells me to charge a certain amount, then I will charge only that amount, otherwise it is on Him...
His Will, His bill, & in His Timing!

PeterT

jimFPU

09-20-2009, 11:02 AM

OK, I'll not ask again. I do believe the same way you do with this exception: I'm not a non-profit when it comes to hobby stuff.

Now aks me about financial counseling...and I can give that away all day if it will help someone-that's why we're Dave Ramsey Financial Counselors (http://www.daveramsey.com/fpu/counseling/index.cfm?FuseAction=dspBecomeACounselor)!*

*Completion of this training does not make me an employee or agent of Dave Ramsey, nor give me the right to speak for or bind him, nor constitute an endorsement by him.

PeterT

09-24-2009, 09:49 AM

These are the types of rotors that will fit the rotor adaptor kit

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3949806509_37b7ba4caf.jpg
top: 4 hole rotor
middle: 180mm standard 6 hole rotor
bottom: rotors from pocket rocket motorbikes and electric scooters, with adaptor ring to suit.

4 Hole rotors are old technology, but you may have some you want to use, and the hubs using an adaptor plate have a different centre line to the standard 6 hole bike rotor, so I have made it possible for any type of rotor to be retro fitted to your rides. :scooter:

Haven't got the new drawings to the laser cutters yet, so if your ride is waiting for these adaptors and kits; my apologies!

PeterT

Doc Hollywood

09-24-2009, 11:09 AM

Peter,

These are looking great! I am also interested in them as well. Keep us informed.

PeterT

11-11-2009, 02:47 AM

Finally got the drawings for these parts to the laser cutters
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/3933320767_42b967b743_m.jpg

and I now want to totally confirm the following people are wanting the amounts as shown.

These parts are being sent out to those who want them, free of charge, and each kit will contain an inner hub flange, (with rotor mounting holes), an outer hub flange (without rotor mounting holes), plus the adaptor rings, spacers and backing plates to suit.

Others are free to add their names to this list, please email me your postal details and amount of kits required.

If your name isn't on this list, and you have expressed interest, it is because I don't have your postal details yet, or your required quantites.

All kits will come with adaptor kits to retro fit discs to older hubs.

Locolarry 2 kits 36 & 48
Sir Joey 2 kits 36 & 48
jimFPU 6 kits 36 & 48
maddog 4 kits 36
savarin 2 kits 36 & 48
richie rich 2 kits 36 & 48
macka 2 kits 48
taytay 6 kits 36, 2 kits 48
sparky 2 kits
john davies 1 kit 36, 1 kit 48
lioni 4 kits 48
dakidd1 4 kits 36

PeterT

jimFPU

11-11-2009, 07:52 AM

Dude! Awesome! Christmas is coming early! Thanks SO MUCH! I believe you have my 'order' correct! And I was just saving up for Bitex...now maybe I'll wait.

taytayou812

11-11-2009, 06:12 PM

Your generosity is overwhelming. My order looks correct too.
It looks like someone must has the christmas spirit all year long!
Thank you. -Taylor-(taytayou812)

savarin

11-12-2009, 04:16 AM

Hi Peter,
you have my order correct and very many thanks.

xthng1

11-12-2009, 06:03 AM

My order is correct and Thank You.

John Davies

Maddog

11-12-2009, 02:24 PM

Peter,

My order is correct and thank you again!

lioni05

11-12-2009, 08:59 PM

My order is correct as well. Many thanks! :sunny:

Richie Rich

11-13-2009, 01:13 AM

EXACT..!!!

Thanx.........

....Richie....
.

locolarry

11-13-2009, 08:46 AM

Thank you, Peter, It's just right!
Larry

kevinp

11-13-2009, 11:39 AM

Many many thanks for this PeterT

Doc Hollywood

11-14-2009, 02:12 AM

Peter,

I sent you a message if you could include me as well.

PeterT

11-14-2009, 04:28 AM

Message received, & order taken Doc :)

PeterT

jimFPU

11-14-2009, 08:18 PM

I have an idea for paying it to PeterT: Let's all pitch in for the plans he doesn't have.

Kat, anyway for us to do that? Collectively buy all the plans he doesn't have? I dunno...just a thought to do something, besides saying thanks over and over...

Any one else have any ideas?

savarin

11-15-2009, 05:51 AM

PeterT

11-15-2009, 06:15 AM

:jester: You guys could be assuming that I want a copy of all the plans! :jester:

:jester: Has anyone asked what I might want? :jester:

PeterT

kevinp

11-15-2009, 06:33 AM

Is there anything that you would like PeterT ? :)

PeterT

11-15-2009, 06:41 AM

:jester: Nope :jester:,

:jester: but that is just me, :jester:
:jester: if you guys want to organise something you will have to surprise me :jester:

PeterT

PeterT

11-15-2009, 07:02 AM

I am not doing this because I expect to receive something back, I am doing because I have been blessed with the drafting skills, and have taken an initiative to solve a major problem out there in bike hacking world.

I give because I read in my BIble, "Freely you have received, freely give!", and this is a God given idea, so i just have to freely give of it!

Bless Ya Heaps
PeterT

PeterT

11-17-2009, 08:18 AM

Is there anything that you would like PeterT ? :)

Actually, there is something I really do want, but none of you guys will be able to help me get it.

A new wife! :rolleyes4::cheesy:
as I had to trade in the last one, who was diagnosed Faulty, for a life as a bike hacker/builder !

PeterT

jimFPU

11-17-2009, 09:58 PM

Sorry Pete, no help there.

Richie Rich

11-17-2009, 10:23 PM

PeterT

11-18-2009, 03:34 AM

You're on your own in that department, Pete.

However, one thing I learned early in life is to never make the same mistake twice...!!!

One house, one car, one wife, one kid, one job, etc..... :scholar:

....Richie...
.

well i don't have one house, & I don't have a wife but I do have one car, & 4 boys, and one job!

so i guess three out of five aint that bad :cheesy:

PeterT

PeterT

11-19-2009, 04:36 PM

The quote has been received from the laser cutters, and the order is now placed, this is the absolute last opportunity for any one else to get some of these hub flange/rotor adaptor kits from me, so please email your delivery details if you are remotely interested, otherwise you will be missing out!

PeterT

davec8656

01-26-2010, 03:42 PM

DaveC here, and definitely interested in the disc brake adapter kit. Not sure what info you need for the correct kit, or is it one kit fits most? I have donor bikes with and without rear suspension. 24 to 26 inch wheels, not sure how many spokes. Not fancy bikes, just the local WalMart, Kmart, etc. variety, but good for lots of parts. Great to find this info as I plan to build at least one Marauder 2 for me and a Meridian for my wife. Son in law wants one too, so I will probably end up building another one, plus a small bike for the grandson. Thanks for a great forum, this soooo cool!!!

chainmaker

02-06-2010, 09:00 AM

Has anyone tried this product http://www.bicycledesigner.com/defaulthome.asp?Main=/datasheet.asp%3FPartNumber%3D505202 I am really just interested in the adapter to mount a drive sprocket that I have. I have been trying to find out with no luck if it fits most brake hole patterns, or that odd scooter size
Cheers

PeterT

02-06-2010, 06:54 PM

it is that odd size off of electric scooters

all bike disc brakes have a slightly larger pcd, have a look back through this thread, and you should find a picture of the various size rotors; see post #26

The bottom one is the same as you have been looking at, the others are off of bikes

Post #21shows the actual variances between the different sizes of pcd.

PeterT

ps. the adaptor ring will screw straight onto the threads that your freewheel comes off, and the BB Threaded nuts will screw straight into the adaptor rings :)

jimFPU

02-11-2010, 04:09 PM

Any updates Peter? Or should I go ahead with my Bitex order?

PeterT

02-11-2010, 07:36 PM

I pick up the order on thurday next week, and then start posting around the world

PeterT

jimFPU

02-16-2010, 10:00 AM

Sounds good. I just didn't want to order both, and I hadn't heard anything lately. God will grow patience in me yet...

PeterT

02-19-2010, 08:21 AM

Here we go, this is the collection of Disc Brake/hub adaptors
The entire set of 96,72,48,36,32,& 24, with the adaptor kits in the bags in the background
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4369491279_9fa0621ab0_m.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4369591351_9f8f65f40e_m.jpg

and here are the orders being picked!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4370349312_29c22e115b_m.jpg

Posting out will start next fortnight, so please bear with me
PeterT

jimFPU

02-20-2010, 06:56 PM

Dude, you are awesome. Thank you so much. Now it's like waiting for Christmas again...

Maddog

02-20-2010, 10:55 PM

Hallelujah! Gifts from heaven delivered by St Peter.

PeterT

03-09-2010, 04:10 AM

OK I have 8 parcels ready to post tomorrow, more to go out soon!

To save ink and my printerheads;

The hub flanges have been cut with a 16mm centre hole to suit extension bars for socket sets. Each set of flanges has a rotor side, and a non rotor side. and the rotor holes must be aligned with your rotor direction prior to building your wheels

The adaptor rings and backing plates will only mate together one way, align and mark before you try and get frustrated fitting them to the wheels!

The backing plates have been cut for a 5mm tapped thread, but as most of you are in the USA, you can tap to the closest thread you use.

You will need to cut a small disc of rubber out of a side wall of a car tyre, and place between the adaptor ring and your spokes, and you could even put one on the inside of the spokes between the backing plate, and the spokes, to make sure the adaptors are locked to the spokes.

Enjoy and let me know how they work.

ps those who receive Australian stickers, all I ask is that when you have finished your hubs with paint /chrome etc, that you place a small OZ sticker on the inside of the hub or some where visible.

Thanx
PeterT