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socialtalker
05-16-2010, 07:20 AM
i am planning to build the loderunner with hubless back wheels the plans call for. but i would like to have fenders on the back wheels. i believe fenders are usually connected from the hub, unless i am mistaken. is there a way to attach fenders to the back wheels from the cargo deck thingy?

PeterT
05-16-2010, 08:05 AM
Socialtalker,

All the upwrong bikes attach the fenders from the little plate behind the BB, and from the small bar holding the rear seat stays in place, this often has the brake caliper attached to it, and then have two secondary supports coming from a small bolt just above the rear axle to support the other end of the fender.

Because you are making a loderunner, you can make you fenders out of anything you want, be it curved timber/plastic/sheet metal etc., and all you have to do is make some attachment brackets that will connect onto the loderunner rear triangle.

I found an old 24" fat rim, and cut two equal sections out of it, so that when 2 nuts are placed on the 20" tyre, I have a semetrical fender and I will then join the new fender to my Streetfighter rear frame where it is appropriate, or attach them to my front wheel assemblies, so that the fenders are mounted and turn as the wheel turns.

No pics available yet, but I will get a couple to show how much I cut the rim.

PeterT

socialtalker
05-17-2010, 03:49 AM
thanks for reponding, and to both my questions. ! great to know its possible. i'm trying not to sound dumb, but
looks like there is no other way to say it. what do you mean by the loadrunner read triangle? i still cant picture how i would attach the fenders to the back wheels.
i have been trying to figure out what you meant all day!


Socialtalker,

All the upwrong bikes attach the fenders from the little plate behind the BB, and from the small bar holding the rear seat stays in place, this often has the brake caliper attached to it, and then have two secondary supports coming from a small bolt just above the rear axle to support the other end of the fender.

Because you are making a loderunner, you can make you fenders out of anything you want, be it curved timber/plastic/sheet metal etc., and all you have to do is make some attachment brackets that will connect onto the loderunner rear triangle.

I found an old 24" fat rim, and cut two equal sections out of it, so that when 2 nuts are placed on the 20" tyre, I have a semetrical fender and I will then join the new fender to my Streetfighter rear frame where it is appropriate, or attach them to my front wheel assemblies, so that the fenders are mounted and turn as the wheel turns.

No pics available yet, but I will get a couple to show how much I cut the rim.

PeterT

PeterT
05-17-2010, 05:06 AM
Socialtalker,

I am yet to purchase the Loderunner plans, next on my to buy list!, but if you have a look at the picture on the plans page, you can see where Brad has made the cargo box. Attach your fenders to this box by welding short outriggers from the box frame to your fenders.
Also look through the gallery pics, as there is a couple of pics of cargo bikes with fenders.

Here is the 24" rim showing how I cut it
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4614329485_4ae1f99d67_m.jpg

Showing how snug the 20" wheel and tyre fit into the 24" rim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4614329487_80cda47304_m.jpg

Here is a side view of the little rods holding the 24" rim to the side of my Streetfighter
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3377/4614329489_bb7332e85c_m.jpg

PeterT

John Lewis
05-17-2010, 05:50 AM
I'm a cheapie. I make my fenders with Coreflute and zip ties. bit of paint and very presentable. One set has at least four years on it .
John

socialtalker
05-19-2010, 04:51 AM
oh, my response didnt post the first time! lets try this again.
thank you for explaining in detail how the attachments should look. since they will be attached from only one side, those outriggers are going to have to be made from very strong steel.



Socialtalker,

I am yet to purchase the Loderunner plans, next on my to buy list!, but if you have a look at the picture on the plans page, you can see where Brad has made the cargo box. Attach your fenders to this box by welding short outriggers from the box frame to your fenders.
Also look through the gallery pics, as there is a couple of pics of cargo bikes with fenders.

Here is the 24" rim showing how I cut it
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4614329485_4ae1f99d67_m.jpg

Showing how snug the 20" wheel and tyre fit into the 24" rim
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4614329487_80cda47304_m.jpg

Here is a side view of the little rods holding the 24" rim to the side of my Streetfighter
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3377/4614329489_bb7332e85c_m.jpg

PeterT

socialtalker
05-19-2010, 04:53 AM
i can quite picture how using zip ties would done on the wheels of the loderunner. perhaps you were speaking in general? i was looking at chrome fenders


I'm a cheapie. I make my fenders with Coreflute and zip ties. bit of paint and very presentable. One set has at least four years on it .
John

PeterT
05-19-2010, 05:06 AM
If your fenders are purely decorational/functional and carry no load, then you don't need to over build the supports, as the fenders are quite light.

However, if you are planning to use the fenders to actually carry loads, then you will need to make the supports stronger.

I can use 6mm rod for my ideas, because there is no load going to be sitting on the fenders.

If I was going to allow children to sit on the fenders then I WOULD use thick angle iron for the supports.

PeterT

socialtalker
05-22-2010, 11:30 PM
mine will be just decoration. ironic you should mention that though, i was just looking at this cargo trike as a pedicab and noticed how its over the wheels.

http://www.lightfootcycles.com/pedicab.php



If your fenders are purely decorational/functional and carry no load, then you don't need to over build the supports, as the fenders are quite light.
ad going to be sitting on the fenders.

If I was going to allow children to sit on the fenders then I WOULD use thick angle iron for the supports.

PeterT