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SirJoey
05-06-2008, 09:23 PM
Bought a brand new Craftsman 10" miter saw today. Thought it was a decent deal at $129, till I found out I couldn't get metal cutting blades for it. They didn't have any there at Sears, where I bought it. No biggie, I figured, I'll get one at the dreaded Lowes. They didn't have any either. In fact, no place in town carried 'em!

Finally, went back to Sears to see if they could order one. Yep, & only $260! Nearly twice the price of the saw itself! I was petrified! Still didn't give up, though. Came home, looked on HF. Still no luck. Looks like I'll be returning the saw tomorrow, in favor of another chop saw... :(

AtomicZombie
05-06-2008, 10:15 PM
It should be against the law for stores to pull crap like that.

Brad

SirJoey
05-06-2008, 10:58 PM
Was it suitable for metal?

I didn't even know there was a difference! Just another reason to return it, I guess..

TheKid
05-06-2008, 11:40 PM
I get mine from a local hardware store. Here's a link from Northern Tool:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332111_200332111

Like many carpenters, I don't use the plastic guard, to me it just gets in the way. I never had a problem cutting metal with any miter saw. Northern Tool also has steel blades that will last much longer, for $50-$60. A far cry from the $260 quoted by Sears. I never used anything but the cheap grinder type blades for miter saws and circular saws, for metal or masonry.

TheKid
05-07-2008, 12:52 AM
I've never used a Hitachi. The plastic guides in the slot should be able to withstand extreme heat. The clear plastic guards melt quite easily. My cheap 7" cutoff saw has a plasic cover that isn't affected by the sparks at all. I've used Makitas, DeWalts, Milwaukees, and Deltas for cutting metal with no problems at all. From the pictures I've seen of Hitachis and the newer Deltas, they seem to have a lot of plastic behind the blade compared to other saws: (Joey - Delta makes many of sears tools, so you might want to return that saw anyway, if there's a lot of plastic behind the blade.)

http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-C10FCE2-10-Inch-Compound-Miter/dp/B000V5Z6RG/ref=sr_1_5/102-2236294-7905715?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1210135876&sr=1-5

http://www.faucetdepot.com/faucetdepot/ProductDetail.asp?Product=18187&AffiliateID=ChannelAdvisor&CAWELAID=33006668

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00998354000P?vName=Tools&cName=BenchPowerTools&sName=Miter%20Saws&psid=FROOGLE01&sid=IDx20070921x00003a

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000223I4

TheKid
05-07-2008, 01:09 AM
Joey - I use the miter saw because I have one. I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a decent chop saw. But for $30 more, you could get a good chop saw meant for cutting steel:

http://www.toolking.com/DeWalt_D28715R.aspx

SirJoey
05-07-2008, 05:00 AM
Joey - I use the miter saw because I have one. I didn't want to spend a lot of money on a decent chop saw. But for $30 more, you could get a good chop saw meant for cutting steel...

That looks like the (worn out) one I currently have. Not a bad price, but at 40 some pounds, shipping would be steep.

Actually, using a miter saw seemed like a good idea to me. Nice & easy to set up various angles, & accurately too! I wish I could afford to keep the thing, even if only for it's intended use.

The "$260" price on that blade was a typo on my part. It was actually supposed to be $240, but STILL...

TheKid
05-07-2008, 08:45 AM
Shipping from Toolking is a flat $7.99. You don't need that blade. Here's the link again for the $5.99 blade from Northern Tool:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200332111_200332111

SirJoey
05-07-2008, 09:27 AM
Thanx for the info, Kid. Wow, good shipping rate, that!

BTW, that Northern Tool link, is that the blade you use in your miter saw? If so, then the blades are apparently the same for chop saws & miter saws both, right?

melw
05-07-2008, 10:43 AM
Oh my this would be the cat's meow!
http://www.vansantent.com/Saws/Hyd_mech_portable_cold_saw.htm

Too bad about the price!:eek:
Mel W.

TheKid
05-07-2008, 11:43 AM
The sizes and arbors are different on chop saws, but the material is the same.

SirJoey
05-10-2008, 05:33 PM
YIKES! I haven't returned the miter saw yet, but even if I do keep it, I'm not about to attempt THAT! :eek:

TheKid
05-10-2008, 06:41 PM
None of mine have a plastic part like that. All the ones I have have metal blade guides. That explains why I never had the problem in the photo.

Pagan Wizard
06-08-2008, 05:31 PM
Here is a nice saw that is designed to cut steel up to 2 inches thick, and wood at the same time. The manufacturer claims that all the heat generated while cutting is contained in the blade and you can actually touch the freshly cut metal with bare hands. It also does not give off a huge shower of sparks (I watched the demo on TV, and will back that one up). At $195 plus the cost of the blade needed for what we would use the saw for, $39.95, it isn't cheap, but it is very safe, and extremely effective.

http://www.tubing-benders.com/evolution/evo180.html

savarin
06-09-2008, 02:14 AM
Another teeny weenie thing to worry about is if you cut steel and aluminium on a regular basis it appears that the filings can mix into a nice pile of thermite and are then ignited by the steel sparks.
Never seen this myself but knowing how easy it is to produce thermite I can believe its possible.