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Atrophy
08-04-2013, 03:51 PM
Thoughts on using integrated hubs with short axles and a pair of block bearings on the FRONT end of warrior and like builds kinda like so.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a225/gloorp/shortaxle.jpg

My thoughts are to build integrated hubs for the front end of a warrior trike, using short axles and a pair of block bearings to secure it. This way you don't have to buy fancy, disc ready hubs you can side mount.

Any thoughts as to whether a pair of pillow block bearings mounted side-by-side would handle the strain ? any better ways to do it ?

Ticktock
08-04-2013, 09:59 PM
Answer to both is yes!
Pillow blocks (cast iron) would do this ok (say 3 inches apart), but they are heavey.
There is a thread on the forum where this is discussed, and I posted a design for this idea. If you can't find it I will repost on this thread, but later, as I have run out of time this morning, and have to get going!
Steve G,
beijing

Ibedayank
08-05-2013, 12:41 AM
you can get the factory made hubs for under $50 pillow block bearings are $15 or more each

making sure the axle cant slide out of bearings but be removeable to allow repairing wheels.tubes is needed plus finding a way that is strong enough to suport it on the headtube without breaking it

Atrophy
08-05-2013, 01:00 AM
Alternatively, foregoing the front disc brakes on a warrior, would a standard hub work ? would the standard axle hold or would it have to be replaced with a bolt ? The retaining nuts on mine appear to be integrated with the bearing race while a second pair of nuts cinch up and lock everything in place, replacing it with a flat bolt could be problematic.
I wanna keep the budget as low as possible for my first bike at least.

Ticktock
08-05-2013, 08:32 AM
Hi,
Heres the pic I promised earlier.
http://s13.postimg.org/9sum0jk07/P1110_04_10_12.jpg
I have not shown any means of retaining the assembly. Could be split pin and shims, nut, bolt, locking collar etc.
Brake flange welded first, then wheel flanges.Spoke hole circle must be bigger than brake flange to allow spokes to enter from both sides.
3/4 " or 20 mm axle recommended, depending on what you can get that fits together.

Hope that helps.
Steve G,
Beijing

MrIdaho
08-05-2013, 09:49 AM
I have posted a method that one can build some bomb proof hubs with disc brake adapters and 3/4" axles. I have enough material for 5 hubs for under $75 with several bearings left over. Look under hubs-DIY hubs. shipping the dom tubing was as much as the metal itself.

edspedalcars
08-05-2013, 10:38 AM
you can get the factory made hubs for under $50 pillow block bearings are $15 or more each

making sure the axle cant slide out of bearings but be removeable to allow repairing wheels.tubes is needed plus finding a way that is strong enough to suport it on the headtube without breaking it

FWIW.. I just bought these, 4 for 29.67 w/free shippjng.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Qty-3-4-Pillow-Block-Bearing-UCP204-12-Pillow-Block-Bearing-Solid-Foot-/230950747120?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item35c5bcbbf0

Ed

MrIdaho
08-05-2013, 11:13 AM
I purchased very similar couple of weeks ago. I looked at their website but add shipping. using ebay = free shipping

MrIdaho
08-05-2013, 11:25 AM
purchased same but only piurchased two for $17.80 but wish I had ordered four

Atrophy
08-05-2013, 11:35 AM
FWIW.. I just bought these, 4 for 29.67 w/free shippjng.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Qty-3-4-Pillow-Block-Bearing-UCP204-12-Pillow-Block-Bearing-Solid-Foot-/230950747120?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item35c5bcbbf0

Ed

OOO nice, that will help if I decide to make it a quad instead of a trike. I saw one in the gallery somewhere, someone mashed the timberwolf and warrior plans I think. Conveniently I have both, Looks pretty sweet.
Does anyone have some links to order up the bigger, disc hubs like the ones mentioned in the warrior plans ? I'm kinda caving in, dont wanna over complicate things, but still wanna keep it cheap.

MrIdaho
08-05-2013, 12:01 PM
I purchased my CLARKS disc brakes from http://www.niagaracycle.com/ for $33? each w/ rotor. Not as high priced as say an AVIDE caliper.

Atrophy
08-05-2013, 01:04 PM
I purchased my CLARKS disc brakes from http://www.niagaracycle.com/ for $33? each w/ rotor. Not as high priced as say an AVIDE caliper.

Thank you sir, I think I found a couple hubs, I'll have to count my spokes now. If I read correctly, 20mm through axle is the thick, heavy duty axle I need. I'll have to see what exchange rates and shipping comes to over the border or find a Canadian supplier.

Ticktock
08-05-2013, 09:23 PM
Good reason to check other prices before using Ebay---no wonder they can afford free shipping!
I can buy four here, and ship to US for less than that! Just a long wait for the ship.
Steve G