My life with Python trikes Mk1 , Mk1.5 , Mk2 ?

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Ok after lots and lots of thinking I came up with this , simple and uses the existing seat sub-frame and the minimal amount of extra parts ?



This is probably the maximum tilt as the seat will hit the frame.



The front is a large door hinge held around the frame with 2 x 8mm bolts and some angle iron. I do think angle iron sort of screams of a diy bodge however I chose it because it stops the plate bending to easily and with the vertical surface pointing forwards it will help keep the nut's clean.



It is square I think I have botched the original seat mount and it is now sat at an angle.



So this is what it looks like when sat on the frame. I doubt I will be using the Q/R's as they are only screwed halfway into the Q/R nuts and I think that is not safe. On the clamp using the Q/R's I have freed the vertical tab on the other side, it was welded with some cardboard spacers as advised by Sandman to gain clearance for the paint so I carefully cut into the cavity made by the spacers and released the tab , now it can't get bent under the frame and then lock the whole thing up as it has done in the past as undoing the top fixing makes it come free from the main frame.

So this is only prototype wrong length bolts no lock nuts and no paint , Need to get the seat bolted to the sub-frame then I can put it on the trike and give it a test......

Watch this space....
 
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Anyone can build to a plan. After all, it is someone else's proven dimensions and methods. It takes creativity to suck-it-and-see so that it too, in time, can become someone else's plan. Along the way, there is a collection of scratches, errors, changes, bodges, discards, etc. Those that stick at it, reach its final conclusion - even if that conclusion changes to proving that it can't be done.

It's the journey that is important, not the destination. As an example, I'm concentrating more on the journey of life - not the destination.
 
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It's the journey that is important, not the destination. As an example, I'm concentrating more on the journey of life - not the destination.
I am in no way religious , however Amen to that philosophy.

All the best Paul
 
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Tuesday 11th
Yes ' cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey ' [ look it up it is NOT rude ! ] here yesterday however I got the new seat frame pivot/clamp assembled on a piece of scrap frame material and then transferred it to the trike , only 4 bolts and 2 zip ties however a real chore in the cold and high winds ? hiding in the back of the garage where there is no light ...

Not tried the tilting in-situ yet as rear rack needs removing and box assembling and I had had enough and went inside to thaw out...
 
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So no progress to report on rear fairing , instead took a sharp left and decided to explore iLean/tilting & rear suspension as you do !

For that I realised I could not keep messing up the blue part of the Mk1.5 as I need to be able to ride it daily ....

Answer ? build a ' Mule ' so a test bed rear half is needed , I also need a front half to go with it however lets learn to crawl first ;)

The Mk1 rear end was languishing awaiting for the impetus to give it rear brakes so out with the grinder and get it cut up !



I cut the fixed rear part off and found some tubing to extend the spine.



Mistake number 1 the identified tubing is 40mm which is not 1.5" !!!
Mistake number 2 the method of fixing was by cutting 4 slits in each square face and welding through into a 1 3/8" round tube hammered inside.
Mistake number 3 cutting the slits 4" long with a grinding disc !
Simple maths says 4 faces x 2 tubes gives 8 faces
Using TIG it cannot weld across the gap so each slit needs 2 welds x 8 faces which gives 16 welds
Now 16 welds x 4" is 64" of weld !!!

Now this is TIG up against one of it's limitations not designed for laying down loads of filler , if I had either Stick or MIG a simple weave would have filled the whole slit up nicely.

Should have slit with 1mm disc and widened slightly then welded , however it ain't coming apart now !




Here they are ground down to the face as I intend clamping any experimental rear end across the spine so they need to be flat.

Some time in the future I may cut the bottom off the old rear end and weld a 3mm plate across the end with 2 x 8mm holes then I can also clamp that to it should I be testing a front end or 2 and want a standard non-tilting trike ?


This now looks very long as the rear part is shown exactly in line with where it was cut off ?

However the Mk1 rear was very short and an iLean rear end will clamp a good way back due to the staggered wheels , so would not be in the same place anyway.

Also of course leaning should be possible with a narrower rear end so the old dead axle will be in the way ... NOT NOW (y):D

Brought indoors for a lick of paint ....
 
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